fukaimetsu: Malos upset face (Xenoblade 2 - Malos)
Something that's been on my mind....

Thinking about how each Xenoblade entry focuses on one of the Trinities, where the narrative and story revolve around how the Trinity behaves, it feels so much like a reflection of human "fantasies" about "female" and "male" fantasy. It's hard to explain, but take XB2 for example, where the main focus is Pneuma. Pneuma's personalities (Pyra & Mythra) behave a lot like what the "ideal" woman looks like from a male point of view. People often think Pyra and Mythra’s demeanor is for Rex, but I digress — I think there’s some meta-commentary in the story. Their portrayal wasn’t meant to titillate Rex, but rather the player (at least that’s what I think). Pyra and Mythra's personalities follow popular female character archetypes or tropes that are well-liked by male audiences in Japanese media. Pyra being the Yamato Nadeshiko (Ideal Wife), while Mythra is the tsundere, adding moe and cuteness, one of the most popular archetypes in many danseimuke media.

It just makes me think that the Trinity Processors were really designed to appeal to, and incorporate, many tropes that players like. In XB1, Ontos feels like a character designed for both male and female players, like Ontos is a combination of both. Though personally, I feel Alvis was more catered to female audiences, hahaha.

As for Logos, we don’t know yet because we haven’t had a Logos-focused game (and no, XB3 doesn’t count, Logos doesn’t play an active role there). But we can guess that Malos seems designed with male audiences in mind, maybe because his resonator was a man (Amalthus). So in a way, Malos or Logos  tailored his personality to appeal to male sensibilities.

Damn, I’m rambling, but I wonder if the Trinity behaves that way based on which human they resonate with? Pneuma resonates with men, and Ontos resonates with both women and men, so their personality and demeanor are tailored to be an idealized version of the gender their ''resonator" represents. Since Logos also resonated with a man, maybe he's also tailored to appeal to males fantasy?

Hmmm... I wonder which gender the XB4 protagonist will be, and who they'll resonate with — Logos, perhaps? Just makes me curious.
fukaimetsu: Noah in sunset (Xenoblade 3 - Noah)
This frustrates me because Xenoblade fans can be fucking weird. It’s really annoying whenever I see people trying to assign "age-coding" to Pyra and Mythra—like they’re supposed to be "teen-coded" or "adult-coded." Literally, who the fuck cares? They’re computers.

I know people do this because of Protestant moral panic—oh nyo, the Big Tits Computer Ladies are "grooming" a 15-year-old boy into being their husband, or they need to justify jerking off to Blade ladies by claiming they’re "adults." It’s such an asinine and shallow interpretation that amounts to nothing. These sword women are artificial intelligence, their age DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER!!! You can’t apply a normal human age perspective to them.

What’s also reaaaalllllly curious is how they only do this to Pyra and Mythra but not Malos. Somehow, Malos is defaulted to "adult," even though he acts more like a goddamn teenager than Pythra ever did. (As I’ve written before, Pyra and Mythra display far more emotional maturity and rationality than people give them credit for.)

I know I shouldn’t look into it too much, but it’s really fucking weird how they insist the female personas are "teen-coded." It reeks of infantilization. The series itself shows that the male persona (Malos) is far more childish than the female personas (Pyra/Mythra), yet I’ve never seen anyone call Malos "teen-coded." What’s frustrating is that people only label Pyra and Mythra as teens because they don’t want to be seen as endorsing "grooming" (which is fucking dumb—they’re not, even if they were "adult-coded"). Meanwhile, nobody calls Jin a groomer or manipulator toward Malos, even though Jin is technically much older and call the ship is abusive because Malos indirectly caused Jin’s suffering.

That aside, I don’t care if you ship Pythra/Rex or Jin/Malos—I couldn’t care less about shipping discourse, and they’re just fictional. But I do care when this happens to my favorite characters. People slap unnecessary labels and shallow interpretations on them just because they’re terrified of their Protestant moral values, as if their ship might "indicate grooming." or they dislike a certain ship because their low IQ think fictional shipping contribute to Real Life Criminal statistics.

Newsflash: The Trinity Processor doesn’t have fucking ages. They aren’t "teen/adult-coded" or whatever bullshit you’ve concocted. They’re AI, and their personalities are shaped by the humans who resonate with them. You can’t just shove human age categories onto them—their very existence contradicts that. They’re not human, figuratively, they’re more like deities.

People who insist on age-coding the Trinity Processors deserve to be shoved into a locker. I swear, these types are always the most annoying.

fukaimetsu: N disgruntled face (Xenoblade 3 - N)
I've been stalking some Japanese Malos fan accounts because I wanted to know their thoughts, and I found out that a lot of them like Madoka Magica and love Homura. It’s such a funny coincidence—how Malos fans also tend to like Homura. I knew it! Anyone who likes Malos would definitely like Homura too.

The really interesting thing is that one person mentioned that, between Pyra and Mythra, the one who probably hasn’t forgiven Malos is Mythra—because in a way, Malos is responsible for Milton’s death and for sinking the Torna Titan.

And I totally agree with that. It just makes sense when you think about it. I can see Pyra being able to forgive Malos, she knows what he did, but she only witnessed Mythra’s trauma from an outside perspective. In a way, she’s not really that emotionally attached to Torna. She feels guilty, yeah, but I feel like that guilt is more imprinted on her or forced onto her rather than something she organically experienced. You can even hear it in her voice—whenever Pyra talks about Torna, there's a distant tone in how she speaks, like she's explaining it from what she knew, not from firsthand experience.

Mythra, on the other hand, experienced everything directly and actually developed real bonds with a lot of the Torna cast. So she’s the most hurt. I can totally see her having a hard time forgiving Malos if they met post-game—she’d probably want nothing to do with him.

It just makes me think about an AU scenario where Malos survives the whole ordeal at the World Tree and ends up joining Rex's crew or something. It would be super interesting to see how Mythra would behave toward him in that kind of setting.
fukaimetsu: Noah in sunset (Xenoblade 3 - Noah)

                        Logos & Pneuma, the Male & Female Personas of Trinity Processor

Summary :

An analysis of the characterization and personality of Malos and Pyra-Mythra in Xenoblade 2, exploring how the male side of the Trinity Processor is surprisingly more feminine and emotional than expected, along with a different perspective on Pneuma.

Disclaimer: This analysis and meta discussion are based entirely on my personal opinions and observations. It is not intended as fact—I’m doing this purely for self-indulgence. Also, there are spoilers ahead, so please proceed with caution!


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I post my Headcanon, Theories, Speculations, Fanfics, Commentary, Rambling, & Analysis.

Mostly into : Xenoseries (Mainly Xenoblade), Uma Musume, Girls Band Cry, Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, etc.

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